1 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:11,680 [Music] 2 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,730 so since we want to talk about Michael 3 00:00:18,019 --> 00:00:15,599 Jackson and in the documentary which I 4 00:00:19,790 --> 00:00:18,029 assume you've seen I did I didn't want 5 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:19,800 to see it but I made myself watch it 6 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:21,840 yeah for it's a four-hour slog and it's 7 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:24,240 it's pretty tough to watch but very 8 00:00:28,279 --> 00:00:26,160 tough let's talk about your personal 9 00:00:29,390 --> 00:00:28,289 story that caused you to get involved 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:29,400 with children of the night and other 11 00:00:35,630 --> 00:00:31,650 organizations that look after children 12 00:00:37,970 --> 00:00:35,640 who are abused yeah that's something I 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:37,980 do in my day to day work so all of my 14 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:41,489 clients who have kids or no kids under 15 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:43,140 the age of 21 I deal with that something 16 00:00:46,430 --> 00:00:44,969 I do I'll use the word charity but it's 17 00:00:47,779 --> 00:00:46,440 something I don't charge for so if you 18 00:00:50,209 --> 00:00:47,789 have a 14 year old that runs away from 19 00:00:52,939 --> 00:00:50,219 home and is on drugs I actually will 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:52,949 help you deal with that and help the kid 21 00:00:56,779 --> 00:00:54,690 when the kid comes back off the street 22 00:00:58,580 --> 00:00:56,789 and then give you references and 23 00:01:00,170 --> 00:00:58,590 resources much like I learned from 24 00:01:01,939 --> 00:01:00,180 children of the night and is there a 25 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:01,949 connection between the psychic abilities 26 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:03,660 and what you do with the children 27 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:05,040 that's a good question you're the one 28 00:01:10,399 --> 00:01:08,369 that got it okay good there usually is 29 00:01:11,690 --> 00:01:10,409 because to be a street kid or to run 30 00:01:14,090 --> 00:01:11,700 away and to be on the streets you have 31 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:14,100 to have a very good perception or you'll 32 00:01:17,390 --> 00:01:15,720 end up dead you'll get in the wrong car 33 00:01:19,940 --> 00:01:17,400 with the wrong person who will kill you 34 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:19,950 or you'll let somebody give you drugs 35 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:22,110 that it's a hot shot or what you know 36 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:23,369 you never know what you'll get involved 37 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:25,229 in so you have to be peripherally aware 38 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:27,600 so and for coming from child abuse you 39 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:29,520 dissociate anyway so you're able to see 40 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:31,439 outside of your body abuse kids 41 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:33,180 understand the concept of psychic 42 00:01:36,380 --> 00:01:34,860 because when they're being abused they 43 00:01:39,140 --> 00:01:36,390 are not in their bodies they have to get 44 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,150 out of their bodies like they're not 45 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:42,000 walking out but intellectually and soul 46 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:44,460 wise they are away from themselves 47 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:46,079 that's what being a psychic is you're 48 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:48,630 away from yourself disassociate from 49 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:52,890 yeah so were you a victim yes I grew up 50 00:01:56,959 --> 00:01:55,439 in a home and I never shut up about it 51 00:01:59,209 --> 00:01:56,969 and no one listened to me because that's 52 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:59,219 way it is so I was the troublemaker who 53 00:02:02,749 --> 00:02:00,540 spoke too much and everybody was trying 54 00:02:04,039 --> 00:02:02,759 to gank me with it but I would tell 55 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:04,049 anyone who listened and then I finally 56 00:02:08,059 --> 00:02:05,729 just walked out the door literally when 57 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:08,069 I turned 14 you know who was the abuser 58 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:11,250 ah well I don't want to speak about him 59 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:13,530 but you can guess okay it's the him and 60 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:14,640 the family 61 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:17,760 yeah you were speaking out about it I I 62 00:02:21,979 --> 00:02:20,760 did and I ended up in social services oh 63 00:02:23,780 --> 00:02:21,989 yeah yeah 64 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:23,790 moms won't believe this because it means 65 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:26,730 that they're competing with their child 66 00:02:31,069 --> 00:02:29,489 so my mom found me more is the problem 67 00:02:32,809 --> 00:02:31,079 and because I was adopted it was easy to 68 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:32,819 say I was crazy which they often did say 69 00:02:35,780 --> 00:02:34,470 because I was also psychic so there was 70 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:35,790 other things I was kidding 71 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:37,470 there were psychic so they're like she's 72 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,569 nuts and she's saying this so it was a 73 00:02:44,660 --> 00:02:41,760 problem and then you act out your 74 00:02:46,670 --> 00:02:44,670 behavior is you know you may do drugs or 75 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:46,680 alcohol at a young age you may have 76 00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:48,599 eating disorders you adopt it as an 77 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:51,780 infant I was 10 months old so yeah at 78 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:53,609 some point you learned you were adopted 79 00:02:57,349 --> 00:02:55,500 Oh from the beginning yeah they were 80 00:02:58,879 --> 00:02:57,359 telling me yeah I think that was the 81 00:03:02,629 --> 00:02:58,889 advice at the time I think that they 82 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:02,639 said you know you tell little kids this 83 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:04,530 because I didn't look like my parents so 84 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:06,090 I mean I looked enough like them but 85 00:03:10,940 --> 00:03:07,650 what do you think of that advice by the 86 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:10,950 way do you think had adopted adoptive 87 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:12,480 parents should be telling the children 88 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:17,190 at the earliest pointer I think I 89 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:19,049 probably would have noticed because they 90 00:03:26,689 --> 00:03:23,010 were so tall and I was short no about 91 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:26,699 the constant disoriented because they're 92 00:03:31,189 --> 00:03:29,010 like so and so they used it in terms of 93 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:31,199 you were special we picked you okay so 94 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:33,870 we found you it always struck me oddly 95 00:03:36,559 --> 00:03:35,370 enough because getting back to your 96 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,569 other question I ended up running away 97 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:38,400 and became a stripper underaged okay so 98 00:03:42,289 --> 00:03:40,500 I was 14 and 15 when I was stripping 99 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:42,299 before I was caught by the police again 100 00:03:46,009 --> 00:03:43,799 and then emancipated myself whole long 101 00:03:47,689 --> 00:03:46,019 story but when I was younger when they 102 00:03:49,099 --> 00:03:47,699 told me the adoption experience I 103 00:03:51,259 --> 00:03:49,109 thought it was very much like either a 104 00:03:53,659 --> 00:03:51,269 puppy in the pound or like a stripper 105 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:53,669 like pick me throw more money at me or a 106 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:55,470 puppy take me home and I want dinner 107 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:57,090 that kind of thing you know like I'm I 108 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:58,560 don't want to be in the shelter anymore 109 00:04:02,839 --> 00:04:00,480 that's how it made me feel it was 110 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:02,849 described to me like that like my mother 111 00:04:06,649 --> 00:04:05,340 said she went she found me but she kept 112 00:04:08,180 --> 00:04:06,659 coming back and looking for other kids 113 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:08,190 but none of the other kids responded to 114 00:04:13,460 --> 00:04:10,760 her just me proving I'm an idiot but 115 00:04:15,379 --> 00:04:13,470 psychic ability was not the only one she 116 00:04:17,539 --> 00:04:15,389 adopted yeah she they had their ownafter 117 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:17,549 yeah she was in her early 40s so 118 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:18,930 probably she didn't think she could have 119 00:04:23,899 --> 00:04:21,650 them you know she's a businesswoman and 120 00:04:25,250 --> 00:04:23,909 child-rearing was not on her mind at 121 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,260 that time and that's a long time ago 122 00:04:27,860 --> 00:04:27,360 she's in her 90s now looking back do you 123 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:27,870 think you went 124 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:30,660 through feelings of why didn't my 125 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:34,050 biological mother why why didn't enough 126 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:36,270 to keep me absolutely and she had no 127 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:38,310 answer for it when I met her either 128 00:04:41,689 --> 00:04:41,250 there was no answer so that which was 129 00:04:43,939 --> 00:04:41,699 awesome 130 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:43,949 that's please like Wow okay the child's 131 00:04:49,129 --> 00:04:46,710 psyche though in my mind absolutely yeah 132 00:04:51,140 --> 00:04:49,139 that's why sorry but that's why I have a 133 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:51,150 personal theory not being that close to 134 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:52,770 it that you know what maybe it's better 135 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:55,860 not to tell them until say 13 14 when 136 00:04:58,780 --> 00:04:57,510 they're old enough to really understand 137 00:05:00,860 --> 00:04:58,790 that oh wow 138 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:00,870 mother giving up actually that was a 139 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:02,880 very loving thing because if you could 140 00:05:06,620 --> 00:05:05,370 have not had me I was also very loving 141 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:06,630 thing that the parents adopted me 142 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:08,370 because I was in need of parents and you 143 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:11,100 can really understand in Grasse 14 a 144 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:13,919 little bit different I would say when 145 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:15,510 the child asks that maybe they would ask 146 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:17,430 like if you have a biracial child or 147 00:05:20,029 --> 00:05:18,630 something that does not look like the 148 00:05:23,659 --> 00:05:20,039 parents they might start asking like 149 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:23,669 excuse me why y'all so white not or 150 00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:27,150 whatever and with me I noticed that it's 151 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:29,400 it's it's interesting it is a karmic 152 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:32,940 thing like there is a karmic contract so 153 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:36,150 I came out of one woman to have my 154 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:38,039 appearance the way I am and truthfully 155 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,720 we looked identical so that was good 156 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:41,280 like when I saw her I'm like oh thank 157 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:44,310 god because I necessarily might not have 158 00:05:48,050 --> 00:05:46,650 been the way I am and then my adopted 159 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:48,060 family it's not saying anything but the 160 00:05:51,710 --> 00:05:49,530 boys looked better on that side of the 161 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:51,720 family how old were you when you finally 162 00:05:59,180 --> 00:05:57,000 met mom 23 23 and she didn't have a good 163 00:06:01,310 --> 00:05:59,190 story for you as to no she didn't even 164 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:01,320 know who the father was and I mean she 165 00:06:05,719 --> 00:06:03,449 could have been she was a pot smoker so 166 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:05,729 there's that um I think I might have you 167 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:06,810 know she might have been a little bit 168 00:06:13,210 --> 00:06:09,050 more a little bit hippie-ish 169 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:13,220 she was very nice like there was nothing 170 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:15,780 you she was a kind person she was 171 00:06:21,589 --> 00:06:19,260 actually what age uh 21 she wasn't even 172 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:21,599 really young so one of the problems was 173 00:06:26,210 --> 00:06:22,800 there wasn't gonna be a father 174 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:26,220 yeah she she said she slept with one man 175 00:06:31,219 --> 00:06:28,440 who was a married man and got pregnant 176 00:06:34,189 --> 00:06:31,229 but we tested many different people's 177 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:34,199 DNA back then and none of them were him 178 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:36,990 so I don't think she knew actually or 179 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:39,030 she did know she forgot where she's 180 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:41,610 drunk I'm trying to cover for her now 181 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:43,650 it's like I don't know yeah it was none 182 00:06:48,020 --> 00:06:46,080 of them what about did you the 183 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:48,030 conversation get so detailed as to ask 184 00:06:51,740 --> 00:06:49,620 her about abortion and whether that was 185 00:06:53,119 --> 00:06:51,750 something it was illegal at the time no 186 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:53,129 I didn't ask her if she considered it 187 00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:55,560 for some reason it 188 00:06:59,869 --> 00:06:57,960 I just knowing her would think that that 189 00:07:01,550 --> 00:06:59,879 would not be I mean maybe I was lucky I 190 00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:01,560 think it was the next year after I was 191 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:02,699 born 192 00:07:08,270 --> 00:07:05,250 that it became legal in Canada so I was 193 00:07:10,010 --> 00:07:08,280 born in 66 so I think it was just right 194 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:10,020 after story I did a deep dive on 195 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:13,310 transgender movements and spoke to a 196 00:07:19,129 --> 00:07:15,870 fraternity brother from college that 197 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:19,139 then became my sister recently Oh went 198 00:07:23,420 --> 00:07:21,360 from Dave to Sabrina and she told a 199 00:07:26,450 --> 00:07:23,430 story about her adoption in Los Angeles 200 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:26,460 and also that abortion was illegal it's 201 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:28,889 hard to fathom these days because yes it 202 00:07:33,980 --> 00:07:31,289 was illegal in Los Angeles but in Los 203 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:33,990 Angeles California in the early 60s it 204 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:36,449 was illegal yeah well it was roe v wade 205 00:07:41,209 --> 00:07:38,310 came about in Canada at least it 206 00:07:43,490 --> 00:07:41,219 happened in 67 so I was born in 66 so I 207 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:43,500 think my mom couldn't get out but my 208 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:46,020 mother in law tells a story while she's 209 00:07:52,850 --> 00:07:49,610 past now but she told a story about 210 00:07:54,890 --> 00:07:52,860 taking women for backstreet abortions 211 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:54,900 back in the day you know and she was 212 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:57,599 she's was in she's older like she'd be 213 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:59,250 really old right now she's got like 100 214 00:08:03,499 --> 00:08:01,440 right so she was taking them when she 215 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:03,509 was a young girl going with people who 216 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:04,680 were doing this so there were always 217 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:06,930 backstreet abortions which actually 218 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:08,310 terrified her because she said you know 219 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:10,050 it was like literally on a kitchen table 220 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:11,520 and she wasn't joking in somebody's 221 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:13,050 either office or room or house or 222 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:15,599 whatever so I'm glad that there's a 223 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:17,310 different choice you know rather than 224 00:08:21,170 --> 00:08:19,800 not I'm not Pro we're against whatever 225 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:21,180 it's whatever you want to do is your 226 00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:23,250 business which is you yeah yeah but I 227 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:24,900 mean I'm so glad people aren't going to 228 00:08:29,149 --> 00:08:27,599 like wherever the heck she was going or 229 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:29,159 described cuz it never left her memory 230 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:31,199 which was really interesting you know so 231 00:08:35,630 --> 00:08:33,360 how did you ultimately deal with your 232 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:35,640 trauma did you get counseling before oh 233 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:39,060 please I'm the poster child Hey 234 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:40,800 yeah I was in counseling really young 235 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:44,399 and truthfully I ended up getting caught 236 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:47,459 by the police at about 15 in a bit cuz 237 00:08:50,410 --> 00:08:48,959 you're true and you're a runaway and 238 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:50,420 you're on the runaway list even though 239 00:08:54,170 --> 00:08:52,440 you know you're warning everybody you're 240 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:54,180 gonna run away but the police caught me 241 00:08:57,770 --> 00:08:55,440 I may have gotten into some kind of 242 00:09:01,010 --> 00:08:57,780 bar fight or something and been arrested 243 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:01,020 for assault any guy then when did it 244 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:02,430 ultimately come out that you had been 245 00:09:06,010 --> 00:09:04,410 abused oh they knew it was on my it was 246 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:06,020 already there in my records but they 247 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:09,150 records because oh I had called social 248 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:10,890 service on my parents so I'd actually 249 00:09:15,530 --> 00:09:13,140 like been proactive but still nobody 250 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:15,540 listened and we'd had visitations and 251 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:17,910 everybody was you know so did anything 252 00:09:24,770 --> 00:09:21,240 ever happen to the [\h__\h] no no no 253 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,780 nothing ever happens I mean the Michael 254 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Jackson documentary anything ever 255 00:09:30,770 --> 00:09:28,530 happened other than he died that's you 256 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:30,780 know nothing ever happens and actually 257 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:32,310 the family what happens is you get 258 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:34,530 excommunicated so you are cut out of the 259 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:36,060 inheritance my parents were wealthy so 260 00:09:40,430 --> 00:09:38,610 you're you have no money your siblings 261 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:40,440 end up with the money or whoever plays 262 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:41,850 nice ends up with the money if you don't 263 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:44,610 have siblings I had siblings so you kind 264 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:47,190 of end up on your own so but that's the 265 00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:48,450 greatest gift because I don't need 266 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:50,430 anything from anybody unless I choose to 267 00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:52,890 be around you I don't have to be with 268 00:09:56,690 --> 00:09:54,390 you for money I don't have to like you I 269 00:09:59,150 --> 00:09:56,700 don't like it was a good lesson it was 270 00:10:01,280 --> 00:09:59,160 like don't take choose who you want to 271 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:01,290 be around so that was my lesson but to 272 00:10:04,850 --> 00:10:02,790 answer your question about therapy I did 273 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:04,860 a lot and I met this really nice woman 274 00:10:08,690 --> 00:10:06,210 through the judge he was going to lock 275 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:08,700 me up till I was 18 because you know he 276 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:09,990 was gonna keep me in an institution 277 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:11,790 that's what they did back then and in 278 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:14,370 Canada Children's Aid Society this woman 279 00:10:18,830 --> 00:10:16,320 was in court and oddly enough she had 280 00:10:20,390 --> 00:10:18,840 like little short bleached pixie like I 281 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:20,400 do right now and I wonder if I copy her 282 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:22,320 actually at this point and she was very 283 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,090 tanned and they could smoke in courts 284 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:25,920 back then if you can believe that she 285 00:10:29,570 --> 00:10:27,390 was smoking a cigarette and I'm like who 286 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:29,580 the hell is this woman right and she 287 00:10:33,170 --> 00:10:31,110 stood up and she said your honor I'll 288 00:10:34,940 --> 00:10:33,180 take her I'll try and I was like I'm not 289 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,950 going with her I don't know who she is 290 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:36,480 but it was the best thing that ever 291 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:37,920 happened because I stayed with her for 292 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:42,270 nine months and she was embraced me like 293 00:10:46,100 --> 00:10:43,620 I just went to see her she just passed 294 00:10:47,510 --> 00:10:46,110 so she called me her daughter called me 295 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:47,520 and said you know you need to come 296 00:10:50,510 --> 00:10:49,170 you're one of the daughters and it was 297 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:50,520 the best thing she took me into her 298 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:53,550 house she was a court-ordered group home 299 00:10:57,710 --> 00:10:55,130 person there was should 12 girls 300 00:11:00,950 --> 00:10:57,720 different degrees of insanity in the 301 00:11:04,070 --> 00:11:00,960 house and she was she's been in my life 302 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:04,080 ever since then so I left her at almost 303 00:11:08,410 --> 00:11:06,570 16 and we would say she she provided 304 00:11:11,019 --> 00:11:08,420 counseling to you over 305 00:11:12,970 --> 00:11:11,029 the abuse absolutely an atom whatever 306 00:11:15,069 --> 00:11:12,980 she did you thought was extremely the 307 00:11:16,629 --> 00:11:15,079 right approach yeah she told me this is 308 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:16,639 not your fault this is she had my 309 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:18,230 records it's so funny we talked about it 310 00:11:23,259 --> 00:11:19,730 just in this past September I went to 311 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:23,269 see her did you have like major you know 312 00:11:28,449 --> 00:11:25,430 were you crying profusely I mean was 313 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:28,459 that really a deep profound therapy no I 314 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:31,040 don't really cry really I have too much 315 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:34,160 makeup kitty I learned really young we 316 00:11:38,590 --> 00:11:36,050 have to take you to a really deep dark 317 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:38,600 place we did we did therapy we did with 318 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:40,850 counselors and you know we did that and 319 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:42,620 the family was also invited back in and 320 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:44,000 that usually ended up in a war so that 321 00:11:47,530 --> 00:11:45,889 ended up more angry than it did sad 322 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:47,540 because your family oh yeah they have to 323 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:49,370 come into counseling like that's part of 324 00:11:54,430 --> 00:11:51,920 the court system but the person being 325 00:11:56,050 --> 00:11:54,440 accused is coming into the he wasn't the 326 00:11:59,230 --> 00:11:56,060 one causing the problems he actually 327 00:12:00,879 --> 00:11:59,240 apologized to me before he passed we 328 00:12:03,340 --> 00:12:00,889 only spoke a couple of times in 30 years 329 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:03,350 but you know when he put like by the 330 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:04,910 time he passed but it was more my mom 331 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,320 that caused the problem she could hear 332 00:12:11,079 --> 00:12:08,320 none of it and so she would cause these 333 00:12:13,569 --> 00:12:11,089 insane problems in the therapy he was 334 00:12:15,730 --> 00:12:13,579 admitting it well he would say he had an 335 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:15,740 alcohol problem and at the end of his 336 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:17,480 life he said I'm sorry for everything I 337 00:12:20,530 --> 00:12:19,250 did and that was fine I accepted it I 338 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:20,540 didn't really hold a grudge against him 339 00:12:23,740 --> 00:12:22,010 because he was actually nicer than my 340 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:23,750 mother which sounds really weird she was 341 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:26,810 insane so she was but I understand it 342 00:12:30,430 --> 00:12:28,279 it's a dynamic that goes on so 343 00:12:32,410 --> 00:12:30,440 somebody's always put in the angry place 344 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:32,420 and somebody's put in the nice play you 345 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:35,120 see so it's a game but to answer your 346 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:37,550 question I did what saved my life if you 347 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:38,240 must know 348 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:40,160 what saved my life because I did drink I 349 00:12:44,319 --> 00:12:41,570 did drugs they did all kinds of things 350 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:44,329 till I was 20 but I had been a runner as 351 00:12:49,150 --> 00:12:47,510 a child and in truth mountain running 352 00:12:50,889 --> 00:12:49,160 saved my life cross-country running 353 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:50,899 because when I got to California at 20 I 354 00:12:55,389 --> 00:12:52,010 just started running the hills 355 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:55,399 everywhere and I do that every day two 356 00:12:58,809 --> 00:12:57,470 three hours a day so you can't find me 357 00:13:00,610 --> 00:12:58,819 in the morning I'm gone 358 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:00,620 but that saved my life that actually 359 00:13:04,930 --> 00:13:03,170 changed my life I don't drink I don't do 360 00:13:07,269 --> 00:13:04,940 drugs and I haven't and not because I 361 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:07,279 can't I choose not to so I can really 362 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:10,910 see very clearly and yeah and you don't 363 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:13,610 feel plagued by the childhood abuse I 364 00:13:20,139 --> 00:13:15,680 don't now I will tell you when I was 365 00:13:21,310 --> 00:13:20,149 raising my boys and I could see them at 366 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:21,320 my age 367 00:13:28,990 --> 00:13:24,350 and see the Predators around them I was 368 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:29,000 very overly cautious like overly like 369 00:13:32,740 --> 00:13:31,130 they were like get off my back so that 370 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:32,750 part of the documentary really rang true 371 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:35,600 to you when Wade Robson says that really 372 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:37,160 wasn't until he had his own children 373 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:38,720 that he came to grips with his own abuse 374 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:41,060 yeah no you you can't when I like 375 00:13:45,490 --> 00:13:43,040 literally thank God my husband was 376 00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:45,500 agreeable but I'm like only you and I 377 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:47,390 babysit our kids maybe once or twice 378 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:49,070 went to someone's house but not really 379 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:51,380 like I didn't allow that you're not 380 00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:53,450 going to anybody's house like you're not 381 00:13:55,810 --> 00:13:55,640 you're just not I need to know where you 382 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:55,820 are 383 00:14:02,110 --> 00:13:58,370 so you're overprotective as a result 384 00:14:03,310 --> 00:14:02,120 yeah they didn't listen and they were 385 00:14:04,930 --> 00:14:03,320 naughty children what about the 386 00:14:07,510 --> 00:14:04,940 difference between you and Wade Robson 387 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:07,520 and and James safe check in in that they 388 00:14:11,770 --> 00:14:10,010 kept this secret to themselves until 389 00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:11,780 much later in life when she was a child 390 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:17,750 you were yeah big mouth just well if 391 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:19,910 you're gonna ask me astrology wise it's 392 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:22,010 different chart astrologically of the 393 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:24,800 big mouth gene it it just never occurred 394 00:14:30,490 --> 00:14:26,690 to me not to speak it doesn't occur to 395 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:30,500 me now not to speak so maybe it's a long 396 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:33,050 oh there yeah because that's one 397 00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:36,010 differences yeah they didn't seem to 398 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:38,750 their friend he was their friend though 399 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:40,430 Michael Jackson wasn't their dad or 400 00:14:45,130 --> 00:14:42,590 their mom or their brother he was there 401 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:45,140 they felt like they were counterparts to 402 00:14:48,970 --> 00:14:47,630 him that Wade was dancing with them and 403 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:48,980 doing you know they were both working 404 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:51,410 with him and if I look at the video of 405 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:53,060 what I watched what she watched 406 00:14:58,330 --> 00:14:55,280 documentary Wade actually seems much 407 00:15:01,030 --> 00:14:58,340 more together the other gentleman to me 408 00:15:02,890 --> 00:15:01,040 seems very broken so and I'm not judging 409 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:02,900 him I'm just saying I can see it he 410 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:06,650 wears it he wears it more than Wade Wade 411 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:08,960 may have as many problems but he's at 412 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:10,880 least stands up to them and i 100% 413 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:13,910 believe them but that so do i basically 414 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:15,710 yeah i mean i don't know how you could 415 00:15:20,530 --> 00:15:18,950 watch it and not believe you could feel 416 00:15:24,430 --> 00:15:20,540 yeah I could feel it actually it may 417 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:24,440 make that it made me very upset my 418 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:26,570 husband was like wow because my husband 419 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:28,160 was always like no Michael Jackson's 420 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:30,290 just stunted he's just not I said no man 421 00:15:35,199 --> 00:15:32,450 you won't watch your kids on the weekend 422 00:15:36,609 --> 00:15:35,209 in your baby quiet like 423 00:15:39,369 --> 00:15:36,619 no man out there with his little kids 424 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:39,379 bringing in that's a red flag but you're 425 00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:40,670 right there's a qualitative difference 426 00:15:46,569 --> 00:15:43,759 between the two where he befriended them 427 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:46,579 he's a counterpose yes and they felt 428 00:15:50,109 --> 00:15:47,990 like it they don't understand it that's 429 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:50,119 like a young girl that dates like she's 430 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:52,429 13 and the guy's like 40 and she thinks 431 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,050 their counterparts because he's giving 432 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:56,480 her attention or whatever and so she's 433 00:15:59,259 --> 00:15:57,800 thinking I'm intelligent I'm grown-up 434 00:16:00,429 --> 00:15:59,269 because that's how they think that's 435 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:00,439 what these little boys were thinking 436 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:01,910 then they fell in love with him that I 437 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:04,160 found very interesting they fell in love 438 00:16:09,790 --> 00:16:06,350 with him uh you know like just really 439 00:16:11,079 --> 00:16:09,800 loved him and thought that he was loving 440 00:16:12,669 --> 00:16:11,089 they didn't look at it as gay or 441 00:16:15,069 --> 00:16:12,679 straight they looked at it as like this 442 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:15,079 guy loves me I found that interesting I 443 00:16:21,220 --> 00:16:17,689 think it seemed to me he seemed to think 444 00:16:23,019 --> 00:16:21,230 of them as his lover right yeah giving 445 00:16:24,730 --> 00:16:23,029 one of them are a wedding ring that was 446 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:24,740 the most horrific thing I've ever they 447 00:16:28,929 --> 00:16:27,290 seem from my perspective to be seeing 448 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:28,939 him as a kind of a father figure 449 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:30,649 neither seemed to be super close to 450 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:34,490 their father and I don't did you get 451 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:38,689 that yeah I might he treated them just 452 00:16:42,249 --> 00:16:40,490 like you would treat somebody you're 453 00:16:44,579 --> 00:16:42,259 dating that you're not in love with 454 00:16:47,289 --> 00:16:44,589 actually like you're using kind of like 455 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:47,299 you know a sex you know hookup what do 456 00:16:51,999 --> 00:16:48,649 we call that like a hookup on an ongoing 457 00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:52,009 thing yeah and those boys they're little 458 00:16:57,009 --> 00:16:54,079 people they were loving there was no I 459 00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:57,019 mean where now where I found it 460 00:17:03,699 --> 00:17:01,519 egregious is as a mother when and I did 461 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:03,709 have a neighbor that actually was that 462 00:17:08,590 --> 00:17:05,329 kind of person like Michael Jackson not 463 00:17:10,299 --> 00:17:08,600 rich not famous but like kids and every 464 00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:10,309 time he tried to get near my kids I was 465 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:11,390 in there and I even blocked him from 466 00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:13,610 other people's kids like I was aware of 467 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:15,169 it like what are you so interested in my 468 00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:17,089 kid for I don't care who you are you 469 00:17:21,159 --> 00:17:18,380 we're not gonna get near my kid so I do 470 00:17:24,189 --> 00:17:21,169 blame the parents on some level you 471 00:17:26,139 --> 00:17:24,199 don't let a child sleep with some random 472 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:26,149 adult that is ridiculous I mean unless 473 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:28,130 you're in war-torn you know Syria 474 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:30,200 running all the borders same trap that 475 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:32,330 all fans of Michael Jackson I think of 476 00:17:35,710 --> 00:17:34,370 falling into which is that they want to 477 00:17:38,350 --> 00:17:35,720 believe that he was something different 478 00:17:41,139 --> 00:17:38,360 and special that he was so unique that 479 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:41,149 yeah I know he acts like a little boy 480 00:17:44,049 --> 00:17:42,710 and I know he likes to hang around boys 481 00:17:45,460 --> 00:17:44,059 I know I like just see what those but 482 00:17:48,670 --> 00:17:45,470 that's just Michael he's different 483 00:17:50,110 --> 00:17:48,680 because he didn't have a pedophile sorry 484 00:17:51,790 --> 00:17:50,120 excuse me because it's pedophile he 485 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:51,800 meets all the criteria of a pedophile 486 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:53,780 all the time but no one wants to believe 487 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:55,310 because it's Michael do you know what 488 00:17:59,290 --> 00:17:56,960 that is and that's something I talk a 489 00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:59,300 lot about because in my profession as a 490 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:01,520 psychic okay astrologer I get a lot of 491 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,290 people who are in different religions 492 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:05,600 will say you know you're a false prophet 493 00:18:09,730 --> 00:18:08,210 a false idol and I'm like no actually 494 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:09,740 somebody like Michael Jackson and the 495 00:18:13,930 --> 00:18:10,970 fact that you listen to him because he 496 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:13,940 got is that is but on TV or singing I'm 497 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:15,140 not saying he wasn't talented either 498 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:16,850 that's not what I'm saying I do like his 499 00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:18,170 music and now I can't listen to it so 500 00:18:21,010 --> 00:18:19,790 I'm doubly pissed off alright it's like 501 00:18:24,670 --> 00:18:21,020 I can't enjoy him because that's 502 00:18:27,670 --> 00:18:24,680 hypocritical so no music but it's the 503 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:27,680 worship of him because he has money as 504 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:29,450 if that matters that doesn't make you 505 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:31,850 that's how they get in there you silly 506 00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:33,410 people like people need to educate 507 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:35,630 themselves you need to actually educate 508 00:18:39,070 --> 00:18:37,190 yourself and if somebody wants your 509 00:18:42,790 --> 00:18:39,080 child in a movie or wants your child on 510 00:18:44,410 --> 00:18:42,800 on in a dance team or music backup they 511 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:44,420 should come to the parents and it should 512 00:18:49,090 --> 00:18:46,790 be aboveboard like it should be here's a 513 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:49,100 contract show up at rehearsal your 514 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:50,570 little kids gonna dress like me you'll 515 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:52,130 come pick them up you can sit on the set 516 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:53,600 I mean that's what you do 517 00:18:56,620 --> 00:18:55,490 yeah there's no way my kid I mean like I 518 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:56,630 could just see my I could see myself 519 00:19:00,160 --> 00:18:58,130 laughing and slapping him in the face 520 00:19:02,410 --> 00:19:00,170 yeah no matter who he was the problem 521 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:02,420 isn't in Hollywood is that there's just 522 00:19:08,590 --> 00:19:06,470 no upside to reporting the person 523 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:08,600 because oh you'll be blackballed you're 524 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:10,910 gonna be oh yeah you know whatever 525 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:12,320 connection you had this was your one 526 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:16,190 link to potential fame and you're gonna 527 00:19:22,570 --> 00:19:19,910 burn that bridge I am reading a war yes 528 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:22,580 I am so and that's why you know I think 529 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:23,750 that you know we want to cover the 530 00:19:30,130 --> 00:19:25,550 Michael Jackson situation but we want to 531 00:19:33,070 --> 00:19:30,140 cover it as one of many examples of this 532 00:19:35,530 --> 00:19:33,080 help so Bryan Singer III bring him up I 533 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:35,540 have personal experience I worked out 534 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:38,450 with a woman whose kid was his date when 535 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:40,460 she when he was 13 now we didn't tell 536 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:42,710 his mother my friend and I did she's to 537 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:44,330 put him on the treadmill next to us when 538 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:45,950 he was off school on vacation or in the 539 00:19:50,140 --> 00:19:48,410 summer so she could do yoga class and we 540 00:19:51,670 --> 00:19:50,150 were her acquaintances at the gym so we 541 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:51,680 would be on either side and we'd keep 542 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:53,600 him contained you know because so he 543 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:55,040 wouldn't wander off get kidnapped 544 00:19:58,570 --> 00:19:56,510 and he started telling us about his 545 00:20:00,910 --> 00:19:58,580 boyfriend in school so I'm thinking 546 00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:00,920 little kid in school because he's 13 547 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:01,760 maybe 548 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:04,730 fifteen year old oh no I'm going I'm 549 00:20:09,850 --> 00:20:07,550 going to Toronto to film x-men with my 550 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:09,860 boyfriend was your boyfriend an actor oh 551 00:20:16,990 --> 00:20:14,750 no the director now this was news to the 552 00:20:19,020 --> 00:20:17,000 mom also at the time Oh news we had to 553 00:20:21,910 --> 00:20:19,030 break it I have another girlfriend and 554 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:21,920 literally we had to break it my husband 555 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:24,500 is like you yelled at me at the time you 556 00:20:28,570 --> 00:20:26,270 should be ashamed of yourself for even 557 00:20:30,130 --> 00:20:28,580 not phoning the police on him in there 558 00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:30,140 he begged me not to and when he got to 559 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:35,240 be 15 Bryan dumped him and asked him to 560 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:37,190 go find younger boys for him and we 561 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:38,480 talked him out of that one I said 562 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:40,010 absolutely can't hear that happened you 563 00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:42,230 cannot do that but but mom did not go to 564 00:20:45,550 --> 00:20:43,940 the police I don't know if she did or 565 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:45,560 not because suddenly nobody talked to us 566 00:20:54,730 --> 00:20:52,090 I guess not going to the police because 567 00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:54,740 okay do I want to tangle my child in and 568 00:21:02,890 --> 00:20:58,130 further traumatize him to deal with 569 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:02,900 police and he he had he didn't have a 570 00:21:05,770 --> 00:21:04,220 father at the time the father had passed 571 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:05,780 and there was other things that were 572 00:21:09,610 --> 00:21:07,850 going on but that was my first-hand 573 00:21:11,290 --> 00:21:09,620 experience and I and it's interesting 574 00:21:13,630 --> 00:21:11,300 because he mirrored the reaction to the 575 00:21:16,210 --> 00:21:13,640 Michael Jackson documentary when Brian 576 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:16,220 broke up with him he was actually crying 577 00:21:19,870 --> 00:21:18,410 to us and he was going across there was 578 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:19,880 Mervyn's across the street at that time 579 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,260 I remember it doesn't exist anymore and 580 00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:23,120 he was going to get two bathrobes 581 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:24,470 because he'd spilt something on the 582 00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:25,790 bathrobes and he had to replace him 583 00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:27,590 Brian gave him money and he just was 584 00:21:30,580 --> 00:21:28,880 sobbing he's like he doesn't love me 585 00:21:32,530 --> 00:21:30,590 anymore and I'm like oh my god you 586 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:32,540 thought he loved like I just I couldn't 587 00:21:38,830 --> 00:21:35,570 even I like I just wanted that he had a 588 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:38,840 father he did with no the father passed 589 00:21:43,690 --> 00:21:41,510 away yeah so just the mom and the mom is 590 00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,700 also in the industry and the mom is in a 591 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:44,960 different in the make up part of the 592 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:47,690 industry the dad had been a director now 593 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:48,770 there's something with these directors 594 00:21:52,150 --> 00:21:50,180 going on out there I'm just gonna say 595 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:52,160 that um not all of them but a lot of 596 00:21:56,290 --> 00:21:54,230 them and because they have power they 597 00:21:59,020 --> 00:21:56,300 have huge power you know they write they 598 00:22:00,880 --> 00:21:59,030 produce they direct but yeah I'd never 599 00:22:04,030 --> 00:22:00,890 forgot it and then I happen to be 600 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:04,040 weirdly so that the gym closed down 601 00:22:09,970 --> 00:22:06,110 another gym opened up there and we all 602 00:22:13,030 --> 00:22:09,980 went our separate ways and so 2013 or 14 603 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:13,040 when the neck the Spanish boy brought up 604 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:14,940 charges against Brian singer I 605 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:16,410 happened to be at the four seasons in 606 00:22:21,290 --> 00:22:19,590 Beverly Hills walked right through I 607 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:21,300 remember it cuz Justin Beaver fans were 608 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:22,590 throwing themselves on the ground he was 609 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,630 outside he's another one that's having a 610 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:27,120 breakdown from that right now and if you 611 00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:28,710 interested I'll tell you what I got on 612 00:22:33,050 --> 00:22:30,840 that one but anyway Bryan Singer was 613 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:33,060 there was a press conference charging 614 00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:34,830 another kid charging him but this person 615 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:36,750 was a dolt and I actually was sitting 616 00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:38,370 there and my phone was blowing up 617 00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:39,750 everybody was seeing it on TV they're 618 00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:40,820 like oh my god don't you know so-and-so 619 00:22:46,790 --> 00:22:44,520 like this he just he's hundreds of 620 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:46,800 people that he's abused and damaged they 621 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:48,420 will have traumatic issues they will 622 00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:50,250 have drug problems and unless they 623 00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:52,020 acknowledge what happened they're gonna 624 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:53,480 have drug problems they'll get married 625 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,700 they'll have kids they'll either scream 626 00:23:00,620 --> 00:22:58,080 and yell at their kids or abuse your 627 00:23:01,790 --> 00:23:00,630 kids or destroy themselves if not turn 628 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:01,800 around and abuse they don't always turn 629 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:03,330 around and abuse though it's higher 630 00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:05,130 amendment it is women but women will 631 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:08,460 marry an abuser so let's go to the 632 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:11,040 childhood of abuser so we look at 633 00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:14,190 Michael Jackson it's everyone pretty 634 00:23:19,780 --> 00:23:16,380 much at this point believes that he was 635 00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:19,790 abused by his father I would be Joe yeah 636 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:22,620 but we don't know what type of abuse do 637 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:23,910 you have any thoughts on what type of 638 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:25,110 abuse do you think he probably saw 639 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:27,450 absolutely absolutely there's several 640 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:29,610 things that I pick up around his energy 641 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,870 and there's an interesting story with 642 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,880 Michael Jackson in particular I didn't 643 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,320 understand it at the time but my kids 644 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:36,000 could actually prove this because I had 645 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:38,190 probably 10 kids sleeping on my living 646 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:40,260 room floor the year before Michael 647 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:41,850 Jackson died and I had gone out running 648 00:23:47,030 --> 00:23:44,490 that morning they were all 14 15 my son 649 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:47,040 was having a sleepover and I had gone 650 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:48,090 out running and when I walked in the 651 00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:49,890 door I heard Michael Jackson's gonna die 652 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:52,590 right I did just out of nowhere no one 653 00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:55,140 said it I heard it my head so I made 654 00:24:00,170 --> 00:23:57,630 bets with the little kids they were it 655 00:24:02,330 --> 00:24:00,180 said Michael Jackson's gonna die by his 656 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:02,340 51st birthday I thought it was gonna be 657 00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:04,170 on his birthday so I had to pay out all 658 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:05,940 that money when he turned 51 because he 659 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:07,770 didn't die in his 51st birthday or he 660 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:09,750 died in his 51st year I think it was the 661 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,330 following like June or something I was 662 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:14,400 right but wrong what I think I was 663 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,890 picking up on was that he was already 664 00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:18,480 headed down that like somewhere on a 665 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,340 soul level he was gonna be taken out and 666 00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:22,320 I'm not quite sure that he died the way 667 00:24:25,910 --> 00:24:24,630 they said actually I'm not saying 668 00:24:27,170 --> 00:24:25,920 anybody went in there and killed him not 669 00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:27,180 like that but I'm not sure the 670 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,460 circumstances is 671 00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:30,080 actually how he died okay with the 672 00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:32,030 propofol I know that that's what they 673 00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:33,620 say but I'm not quite believing it I 674 00:24:39,790 --> 00:24:36,500 actually believe Michael Jackson was 675 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:39,800 groomed to be what he was and groomed 676 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:41,570 into the industry so I actually think 677 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:43,550 it's it's cult-like and they were what 678 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:45,560 Jehovah's Witness it's kind of a not 679 00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:47,270 that they're called sorry I apologize to 680 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:49,070 the Jehovah's out there but I actually 681 00:24:53,470 --> 00:24:50,690 think he was groomed by his father I 682 00:24:56,290 --> 00:24:53,480 think his body was modified so that he 683 00:24:57,670 --> 00:24:56,300 wouldn't grow into a man so I think they 684 00:24:58,810 --> 00:24:57,680 did something to his privates that's a 685 00:25:01,270 --> 00:24:58,820 weird thing to say but that's what I've 686 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:01,280 always picked up I actually live south 687 00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:04,010 around ok chemically castrated I 688 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:06,500 actually think that and I do think Joe 689 00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:09,650 when I look at his okay psychically when 690 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:11,180 I look at the structure of his nose you 691 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:13,010 know how many nose jobs he had I mean it 692 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,070 was obvious okay that area on the body 693 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:18,080 when you read someone's face that 694 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:20,450 represents the sex organs and he kept 695 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:23,030 mutilating his nose so to me I'm quite 696 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:25,190 sure he was mutilated in that area and 697 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:27,110 what a men do to other men so without 698 00:25:31,290 --> 00:25:29,930 being graphic but it's you know they 699 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:31,300 don't have vaginas so it's the other way 700 00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:33,620 so that's what I actually think happened 701 00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:35,750 and I think it happened to all of the 702 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:37,070 kids in the family every single one 703 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:39,410 girls and boys and I think he saw it 704 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,850 happening to his brothers and I think 705 00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,320 that that's how the dad controlled them 706 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:44,480 much like a religious cult a sect or 707 00:25:49,150 --> 00:25:46,280 whatever you want to call it like you 708 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:49,160 know Jonestown Guyana whatever John of 709 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:51,410 God like that exactly so is it your 710 00:25:58,660 --> 00:25:55,520 belief that most pedophiles were abused 711 00:26:01,840 --> 00:25:58,670 as children now that's interesting I'm 712 00:26:03,370 --> 00:26:01,850 not sure how I feel on that because if I 713 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:03,380 say that I feel some are genetically 714 00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:05,660 born that way I am going to have people 715 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,550 say then it should be legal and that is 716 00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:10,880 not what I'm saying but I kind of think 717 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,200 from some people that I've talked to 718 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,360 that they have a predilection that way 719 00:26:21,070 --> 00:26:20,480 and I don't quite know why it is that 720 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:21,080 way 721 00:26:25,930 --> 00:26:23,330 like I they don't acknowledge abuse and 722 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:25,940 I don't feel it from them so I are Kelly 723 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:28,010 is saying that he was sexually abused as 724 00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:30,470 a child we know Michael was abused with 725 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:32,990 sexual or not I feel it was with Michael 726 00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:34,970 I feel his dad was brutal with him yeah 727 00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:38,200 I mean like beat him and raped him 728 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:41,270 orally everywhere just wherever he could 729 00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:41,990 I am 730 00:26:46,750 --> 00:26:43,700 solutely believe that I know Latoya was 731 00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:46,760 she never shut up about it so she has 732 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:48,800 spoken out and said that she abused by 733 00:26:55,299 --> 00:26:52,000 her father she spoke out against Michael 734 00:26:56,770 --> 00:26:55,309 23 years ago and she got flack they 735 00:26:58,330 --> 00:26:56,780 called her crazy they did what they do 736 00:27:00,250 --> 00:26:58,340 they call he was calling Michael out as 737 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:00,260 a pedophile right absolutely she goes I 738 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,450 don't first they hadn't retracted it 739 00:27:06,850 --> 00:27:04,640 later I think and then she's back out 740 00:27:08,020 --> 00:27:06,860 again saying it so she went backwards 741 00:27:10,990 --> 00:27:08,030 and forwards and you could tell from 742 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:11,000 Janet her life and her husband's and her 743 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:12,920 pregnancy that she gave the baby up and 744 00:27:17,860 --> 00:27:15,050 then had a pregnancy at 50 and basically 745 00:27:19,930 --> 00:27:17,870 went to a really culturally different 746 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:19,940 type of person who was basically gonna 747 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:22,190 own her you know what I mean so she went 748 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,370 like her husband right she had to escape 749 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:26,960 him I think is what she said she'd leave 750 00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:28,700 the country with the baby because his 751 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:30,140 belief system is different like 752 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:32,330 radically different so she exhibits all 753 00:27:35,710 --> 00:27:34,010 the symptoms too and her food back and 754 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:35,720 forth so don't you think there probably 755 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:38,240 is a link between child abuse Oh coming 756 00:27:41,230 --> 00:27:39,950 a pedophile I do but I think some of 757 00:27:44,410 --> 00:27:41,240 them might be born with it that's what 758 00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:44,420 I'm saying I don't know I mmm how do I 759 00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:46,790 want to word this there's different 760 00:27:50,980 --> 00:27:48,470 levels of pedophilia so there's under 761 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:50,990 the age of 12 0 to 12 like though that's 762 00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:53,510 a whole other thing and then what we're 763 00:27:58,690 --> 00:27:56,780 talking about with our Kelly ok he we've 764 00:28:00,190 --> 00:27:58,700 people have known about him for 25 years 765 00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:00,200 I've known about him so when you talk 766 00:28:04,330 --> 00:28:02,600 about Bryan Singer 20 years him 25 years 767 00:28:04,990 --> 00:28:04,340 so when you talk about it now it's like 768 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:05,000 duh 769 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,010 trying to get 15 year olds that's a big 770 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:11,840 problem but when he was like 20 and 771 00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:13,730 dating a 15 year old I don't know that I 772 00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:16,820 hold the same I could call that off as a 773 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:19,070 maturity it depends but when they're 774 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:21,530 like prepubescent that's intact that's a 775 00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:23,210 whole other that's a different level in 776 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:24,679 fact let's touch on that for a little 777 00:28:28,299 --> 00:28:25,910 bit because I've been talking about that 778 00:28:30,669 --> 00:28:28,309 also and I might I should know this but 779 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,679 i but i don't as far as what the laws 780 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:32,720 say about that because certainly it 781 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,070 should be a whole different category 782 00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:36,559 okay it is when you're talking about 50 783 00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:38,840 year old man and five year old boy which 784 00:28:47,770 --> 00:28:43,340 is throw-up disgusting versus 22 year 785 00:28:50,049 --> 00:28:47,780 old guy 15 14 year old it is the longest 786 00:28:52,780 --> 00:28:50,059 yes it's different levels it's called a 787 00:28:54,850 --> 00:28:52,790 class something I think class 3 geremy 788 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:54,860 Epstein okay who 789 00:29:03,820 --> 00:28:58,010 is you know who is right no Jeremy 790 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:03,830 Epstein yeah okay yeah the the the sex 791 00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:12,370 Woody Allen Kevin Spacey Bill Clinton 792 00:29:18,010 --> 00:29:14,420 Hillary Clinton Donald Trump once on the 793 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:18,020 airline Katie Couric okay this is 794 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:21,440 conspiracy yeah no that's not no it's 795 00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:22,910 not it's not even conspiracy it's 796 00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:24,350 actually documented they're getting 797 00:29:28,419 --> 00:29:26,120 ready on the 22nd of this month 798 00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:28,429 to unseal the court documents because 799 00:29:32,289 --> 00:29:30,020 Jeremy Epstein it's in court now he 800 00:29:34,299 --> 00:29:32,299 doesn't want his clientele released 801 00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:34,309 because when it's released everybody we 802 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,830 know who's rich is a pedophile okay 803 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:38,240 that's actually what that is 804 00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:41,870 but he flew these Prince Andrew all 805 00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:43,790 these people over to his Island for 806 00:29:47,409 --> 00:29:45,740 underage girls now he's saying they were 807 00:29:50,260 --> 00:29:47,419 14 and 15 808 00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,270 however they let him go on a class I 809 00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:51,679 want to say class one I don't know which 810 00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:55,429 is the higher backwards dating 14 and 15 811 00:29:58,390 --> 00:29:56,630 year olds but there were people on the 812 00:29:59,950 --> 00:29:58,400 island that he traffic kids that were 10 813 00:30:02,409 --> 00:29:59,960 and under that would be Kevin Spacey 814 00:30:05,230 --> 00:30:02,419 Woody Allen now by the way what country 815 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:05,240 is this the Virgin Islands off of st. 816 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:07,570 Thomas is where his Island is owned he 817 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:11,870 it's his ID is it part of the US Virgin 818 00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:13,880 Islands cuz that would impact what law 819 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,830 Bert yeah I you know what I don't know 820 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:18,080 it's it's off st. Thomas I just found 821 00:30:21,460 --> 00:30:19,250 that out the others you know I learned 822 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:21,470 in this other thing abducted in plain 823 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:24,290 sight did you see this on Netflix no so 824 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:26,690 you need to why I need to wise adducted 825 00:30:30,850 --> 00:30:28,760 in plain sight I watched it like two 826 00:30:32,890 --> 00:30:30,860 weeks before the Michael Jackson odd and 827 00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:32,900 there's incredible parallels because it 828 00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:35,870 is about a pedophile who manages to work 829 00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:37,940 his way into the good graces of a family 830 00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:39,350 which is what Michael would do and he 831 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:41,000 got the parents to believe he's a great 832 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:42,500 guy and next thing you know he's taking 833 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:44,030 the young daughter out on a horseback 834 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:45,650 riding trip for three days and he 835 00:30:51,789 --> 00:30:49,190 disappears where he went was to Mexico 836 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,799 why did he go to Mexico well I didn't 837 00:30:55,870 --> 00:30:52,880 know this now this is was actually in 838 00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,880 the 70s but 12 you can get married at 839 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,679 the age of 12 in Mexico now that was in 840 00:31:02,650 --> 00:31:00,320 the 70s I don't that's changed this 841 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:02,660 phenomenon with there's still so many 842 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:04,550 people despite such overwhelming 843 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:08,070 evidence that Michael was a child 844 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:10,600 don't believe it Stu I've got to call 845 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:12,850 them stupid at this point well they they 846 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:15,570 think it's a conspiracy and I'm not in 847 00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:18,610 speaking of you gonna try min on this 848 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,350 speaking of conspiracies I'm not gonna 849 00:31:25,019 --> 00:31:22,480 say it's not because I do think in our 850 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:25,029 society they do try to undermine the the 851 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,340 men of color that make money okay like 852 00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:29,440 Bill Cosby but they put them in 853 00:31:32,909 --> 00:31:31,389 positions where they can let their 854 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:32,919 abuses come out so that they can then 855 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:34,510 take the money back I can't even explain 856 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:36,070 it but I can see where they're going 857 00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:38,230 with that because I'm sorry one of the 858 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:39,820 conspiracies out there you're saying is 859 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:43,240 that well this is people not being happy 860 00:31:47,009 --> 00:31:45,130 that a black man was so successful right 861 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:47,019 and these people are coming forward to 862 00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:50,970 destroy him no no no the the record 863 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:53,980 companies that own Michael Jackson okay 864 00:31:58,769 --> 00:31:56,260 when he's starting out and he's so 865 00:32:00,690 --> 00:31:58,779 indoctrinated they get blackmail 866 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:00,700 evidence against him these boys these 867 00:32:05,970 --> 00:32:03,130 kids okay cuz he has a predilection for 868 00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:05,980 children so all you have to do is be a 869 00:32:11,159 --> 00:32:08,440 smart executive lawyer and get a hot 870 00:32:12,659 --> 00:32:11,169 tape on that which you can do okay you 871 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:12,669 can do it easy you could turn a 872 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:15,130 housekeeper you can turn a sibling you 873 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:17,320 can do do we think Michael was 874 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:19,330 blackmailed oh absolutely I absolutely 875 00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:20,950 believe that by who 876 00:32:26,669 --> 00:32:24,700 I think the record company with David 877 00:32:29,399 --> 00:32:26,679 David Geffen oh are you where that was 878 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:29,409 in my rate there was a few between 879 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:31,450 Geffen and Jackson oh absolutely 880 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:33,850 and here's how I'm gonna word this with 881 00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:35,110 Michael Jackson he was definitely a 882 00:32:37,379 --> 00:32:35,620 pedophile 883 00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,389 okay it doesn't take n Stein to get that 884 00:32:40,409 --> 00:32:39,039 and if you're going against that there's 885 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:40,419 something wrong with you and you should 886 00:32:42,779 --> 00:32:41,830 be bitch-slapped seriously because 887 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,789 there's something really wrong with your 888 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:44,320 intellect if you can't see the signs in 889 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:46,090 front of you and it's fine you can like 890 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:48,010 his music understand his talent but you 891 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:49,750 have to say he's a defective person 892 00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:51,490 because he's hurting children I don't 893 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:53,230 care what his reasons are I really don't 894 00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:54,700 care what his reasons are quite frankly 895 00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:55,929 a lot of us there's people in the 896 00:33:00,269 --> 00:32:58,000 Holocaust that don't abuse people so I 897 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:00,279 don't but just to stay on there for a 898 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:00,760 second 899 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:02,200 they don't believe that he abused 900 00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:03,850 children they think that he was with 901 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:06,580 them yes because he loved children cuz 902 00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:08,110 he missed his childhood but but they're 903 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,700 all there making this up we're stupid 904 00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:11,679 I'm saying that come after me people cuz 905 00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:13,720 you're stupid they need like lobotomies 906 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:14,799 or something I don't know what to say 907 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:17,769 it's like a equals B equals C finally 908 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:18,970 people now know that if you share 909 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:20,230 needles you're going to contract 910 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:21,270 diseases like hepatitis 911 00:33:24,860 --> 00:33:23,010 to see an AIDS okay they used to argue 912 00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:24,870 that I don't know what to say 913 00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:26,430 they used to say smoking didn't cause 914 00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:30,990 cancer I'm just saying okay but okay so 915 00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:32,340 Michael Jackson let's look at it this 916 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:34,230 way let's say when Joe Jackson's pimping 917 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:35,490 him out because he was pimping his kids 918 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:37,470 out okay to make them famous and he was 919 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,590 doing that and that's a brilliant way to 920 00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:42,960 do it if he wasn't so abusive okay like 921 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:44,280 it's he had a good group of kids that 922 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:46,490 were talented I'm not disputing that but 923 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:49,830 let's say a record company guy at Sony 924 00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:52,650 sees Michael Jackson at 23 like in a 925 00:33:55,580 --> 00:33:54,360 seven year old let's just say Andy 926 00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,590 they're having ice cream and he's not 927 00:33:59,090 --> 00:33:57,120 seen anything sexual but let's say he 928 00:34:00,890 --> 00:33:59,100 gives Michael some pills or some tree I 929 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,900 don't know what he did let's say Michael 930 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:02,880 goes in his house and someone's planted 931 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:05,220 a camera now they have evidence now they 932 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:06,510 have evidence against him and they're 933 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:08,010 like you're going to do this now look at 934 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:09,110 Michael in the last year of his life 935 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:11,490 definitely a pedophile folks no doubt 936 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:14,970 about it he was gonna do fifty to fifty 937 00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:17,610 two concerts in a week or a year I mean 938 00:34:22,610 --> 00:34:19,620 per week one concert per week for 52 939 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:22,620 years he was insured okay by Lloyds of 940 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:25,140 London for over a bill a billion and a 941 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:28,530 half so this man is insured this man 942 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:30,840 owns the Beatles records this man a 943 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,050 dossier this man owns all of this he can 944 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:36,000 no way get out on stage because he's not 945 00:34:39,350 --> 00:34:37,710 physically strong enough at the time and 946 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:39,360 they know it so why did they insure him 947 00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:41,850 who's the beneficiary of that somebody 948 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:43,020 at the record company Katherine 949 00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:44,450 Jackson's not getting her money now 950 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:47,399 Michael Jackson's will is not to his 951 00:34:51,139 --> 00:34:49,710 family it's there's a siphon that goes 952 00:34:52,610 --> 00:34:51,149 out to those kids and probably his 953 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:52,620 mother and whoever if they keep their 954 00:34:57,110 --> 00:34:55,110 mouth shut but the record company owns 955 00:34:59,240 --> 00:34:57,120 him and sold that Beatles thing and his 956 00:35:00,500 --> 00:34:59,250 thing for it like 200 billion I don't 957 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:00,510 know however much it was however much it 958 00:35:04,850 --> 00:35:02,820 was they profit now think about that 959 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:04,860 think about in terms of Bill Cosby and 960 00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:07,710 all of this stuff now Bill Cosby by the 961 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:09,270 way heard about that from somebody that 962 00:35:13,790 --> 00:35:10,650 worked it was a producer on the show 963 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:13,800 cheers told me that 12 years ago that 964 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:15,750 Cosby would flash her on her way down 965 00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:17,430 the hallway back in Paramount and she 966 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:18,780 said it was vile and he did and 967 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:20,610 everybody knew it they didn't stop him 968 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:22,170 because they made it's making money then 969 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:23,970 so then they have to come in and then 970 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:25,170 they have to take him down he's probably 971 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:26,760 too old Michael Jackson was too sick 972 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,010 that's what I'm thinking are Kelly is 973 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,680 useless to them now and our Kelly was 974 00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:32,820 their pimp by the way they're not 975 00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,740 fooling me I don't know who in the 976 00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:36,720 movie industry or he was pimping too but 977 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:38,520 he was definitely training that's sex 978 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,400 trafficking and training he's training 979 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,880 them to be served subservience there's a 980 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,800 whole sex industry on that but for their 981 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:48,540 adults it's fine these are baby girls 982 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:50,730 it's not okay so who else is out there 983 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:52,530 that we need to be concerned about let 984 00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:54,090 me see who don't I like I got to think 985 00:36:00,500 --> 00:35:56,280 oh my god you should know think tap into 986 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:00,510 my brain I've just lose oh good god now 987 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:02,850 he's got me okay he's been let go but 988 00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:04,650 they didn't bring charges I met my 989 00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:06,990 family Christmas party at my cousin's 990 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:09,540 right and I'm talking to another cousin 991 00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:11,430 so all the kids are playing and it's fun 992 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:13,020 and it's I think I'm sad actually 993 00:36:17,180 --> 00:36:15,750 Larry's birthday one of Larry's friends 994 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:17,190 you guys don't know Larry he's super 995 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,170 cool anyway it was the 60s parade one of 996 00:36:23,330 --> 00:36:21,119 his friends married this girl and we're 997 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:23,340 talking talking to another cousin about 998 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:25,530 Dan Schneider her daughter okay Susan 999 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:29,630 was attacked by him Nickelodeon 1000 00:36:36,859 --> 00:36:33,570 Nickelodeon Zach and Cody 1001 00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:36,869 so sorry he's an executive executive 1002 00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:40,380 creator top moneymaker for the past 20 1003 00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:43,760 years former child star who is allegedly 1004 00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:47,700 allegedly Brittany Lynn no Jamie Lynn 1005 00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:51,480 Spears baby daddy okay she got knocked 1006 00:36:57,859 --> 00:36:54,630 up by him he allegedly has a toe fetish 1007 00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:57,869 he the woman I was talking to you told 1008 00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,359 fetish he liked toe fetish oh yeah he 1009 00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,160 likes to masturbate while looking at 1010 00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:04,320 tweens toes you figured that out for 1011 00:37:07,849 --> 00:37:06,300 yourself I can't go there he's very much 1012 00:37:10,460 --> 00:37:07,859 in common person you just reminded me 1013 00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:10,470 thank you um Eddie Murphy same fetish 1014 00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:12,660 same thing I know Eddie Murphy back from 1015 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:15,480 20 was pregnant with Jason 25 years ago 1016 00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:17,160 he was on our list of children of the 1017 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:19,230 night for underage transgender boys back 1018 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:22,530 then we had a list of celebrities well 1019 00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:24,690 he was busted with a transgender yes 1020 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:26,700 after that he was driving home but he 1021 00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:28,980 went after in particular there was a boy 1022 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:31,980 in our care named Lionel changes name to 1023 00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,630 Monica I don't know where he is now I'm 1024 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,280 not giving last names neither name was a 1025 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,440 key was it was all pseudonym names who 1026 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:39,359 was going through the sex change on 1027 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:42,600 hormones was 14 and 15 and Eddie was a 1028 00:37:46,340 --> 00:37:44,850 Eddie Murphy along with the head of the 1029 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:46,350 Beverly Hills Police Department back 1030 00:37:49,610 --> 00:37:47,820 then I'd have to look up that guy's name 1031 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:49,620 I don't know which head who would bust 1032 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:51,150 him for prostitution and then rape him 1033 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:52,890 and Eddie Murphy would pay him good 1034 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:54,510 money because it was my job to check 1035 00:37:57,470 --> 00:37:56,010 them in in the middle of the night and 1036 00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:57,480 I'll be like how do you have a grand of 1037 00:38:03,200 --> 00:37:59,520 cash like what were you doing because we 1038 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:03,210 we swore off that would you know yeah so 1039 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:04,530 so when you're working at children of 1040 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:06,390 the night which is all about reaching 1041 00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:09,830 out to under the age of 18 child 1042 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:12,600 prostitutes both female male and 1043 00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:15,210 transgender and when you would they 1044 00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:17,790 would call in we go get them liaison 1045 00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:20,070 yeah it was part of it that you wanted 1046 00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:21,540 to find out who they were with because 1047 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:23,220 you do in fact want to bust 1048 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,740 oh yeah Louis had a hole she had a whole 1049 00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:27,900 list and she would go her doctor Louis 1050 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:30,030 Lee she's opened up thirteen sex 1051 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:32,490 trafficking organizations around the 1052 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,140 world in the past two years 1053 00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:36,240 okay recently and she's a pioneer a 1054 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:39,990 total pioneer she would go out and 1055 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:42,210 actually bring him in and give us a list 1056 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:44,760 of who like who you know who to watch 1057 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:46,650 for we had cab drive at the time there 1058 00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:48,900 was no ebert we had cab drivers that 1059 00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:50,280 would actually rape the kids on the way 1060 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,380 to their their shrink appointments we 1061 00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:54,480 had to put them in cabs because I drove 1062 00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,280 kids at certain times when my son was 1063 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:58,020 born Jason he was just little he would 1064 00:39:01,220 --> 00:38:59,280 come because I could always work with my 1065 00:39:02,270 --> 00:39:01,230 kids there so I would bring car loads 1066 00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:02,280 you know they give you a van and you 1067 00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:03,420 drive them to get their hair done or 1068 00:39:07,450 --> 00:39:05,220 whatever to make them put them into the 1069 00:39:10,850 --> 00:39:07,460 work community so the nice list of 1070 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:10,860 accused would they make that list public 1071 00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,930 sounds like they wouldn't I think that 1072 00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:14,880 Louis did in her way 1073 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:16,680 legally behind the scenes but we knew 1074 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:18,330 who or were because we couldn't let 1075 00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:20,730 people we knew who was doing what who 1076 00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,070 was in town and who you know well and 1077 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:25,200 isn't she turning this information over 1078 00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:25,650 to the police 1079 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:27,990 absolutely so for instance oh she fired 1080 00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:29,490 everybody's information would have been 1081 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:30,390 turned over to the police 1082 00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:33,540 absolutely and then next you're saying 1083 00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:36,420 buried because I'm assuming he had money 1084 00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,910 or a connection or actually 1085 00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:40,500 interestingly enough when I was there 1086 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:42,120 during my segment second pregnancy 1087 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:44,100 Roseanne Barr and two of her kids were 1088 00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:46,650 in the shelter she donated her income 1089 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:47,880 and worked in the shelter and she had 1090 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:49,260 two daughters in that shelter at the 1091 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:52,200 time so D Roseanne Barr he had 1092 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:55,170 biological children yes without working 1093 00:39:59,150 --> 00:39:57,690 the streets I don't know what they were 1094 00:40:00,650 --> 00:39:59,160 doing being trafficked working the 1095 00:40:01,610 --> 00:40:00,660 streets Louis would take in you remember 1096 00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:01,620 Hugh Grant and 1097 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:04,020 Brown divine Brown was in Lois's care at 1098 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,970 the time when I was somewhere in my 1099 00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:07,440 pregnancy with my youngest son he'll be 1100 00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:10,140 25 under age she wasn't but she need to 1101 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:11,700 get away from people threatening her 1102 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:14,550 life and so Lois would bring people in 1103 00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:17,160 as well but in the shelter was the 1104 00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:18,480 underage I don't know where Devine was 1105 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:20,430 being kept but she was with Lois so they 1106 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:22,050 could have been in a different thing and 1107 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:23,850 then there's another shelter which deals 1108 00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:25,410 with it which is called free hab and if 1109 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:26,400 you don't know this you should 1110 00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:28,170 absolutely interview this girl Laurie 1111 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:30,600 burns the teen project she just bought 1112 00:40:37,570 --> 00:40:34,290 the old boy town Boys Town houses up in 1113 00:40:40,070 --> 00:40:37,580 Orange County call it's called Vera's 1114 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:40,080 something now fear it God no I'm gonna 1115 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:41,550 get in trouble Vera's whatever and it's 1116 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:43,920 five houses where she takes girls over 1117 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:46,950 the age of 18 so she can bring them in 1118 00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:48,390 because there's nowhere for us to go 1119 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:49,800 once we've been in the foster care 1120 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,780 system or a runaway over the age of 18 1121 00:40:55,610 --> 00:40:53,220 we're just discarded on the streets 1122 00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:55,620 Laurie's a former prostitute a very good 1123 00:40:59,900 --> 00:40:58,260 friend a little blonde runner super 1124 00:41:02,210 --> 00:40:59,910 smart girl she owns free hab a hundred 1125 00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:02,220 bed shelter in the valley she opened it 1126 00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:04,200 with her board of directors for drug 1127 00:41:09,260 --> 00:41:06,300 addicts women under the age of 30 drug 1128 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,270 addicts prostitutions whatever so she's 1129 00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:11,520 out there too she's doing this it's the 1130 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:13,020 team project Laurie's per I'll text you 1131 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:13,380 her number 1132 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:15,210 Laurie Bruin team project and free hab 1133 00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:16,500 she opened it with Russell Brand 1134 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:18,950 initially and then he disappeared and 1135 00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:21,150 perhaps he's having fun somewhere anyway 1136 00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:22,830 not sure where he is 1137 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:25,500 we don't know anyway better podcast for 1138 00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:27,810 a while yeah we're not sure but he he 1139 00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:29,640 disappeared however during the opening 1140 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:31,140 case he was there to lend his name and 1141 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:32,850 everything which is good and Laurie has 1142 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,170 a lot of experience so if you're an 1143 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,760 older girl like Devine Brown you would 1144 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:37,200 probably seek somebody out like Laurie 1145 00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:38,370 and Laurie 1146 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:40,590 actually helped me with one of my 1147 00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:43,350 clients daughters who we took the mother 1148 00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:46,020 and I took into the shelter and like 1149 00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:48,120 rehabbed and she's off the streets clean 1150 00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:50,190 and sober and good that's kind of how I 1151 00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,630 do my work through the people I know 1152 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:54,000 that are stronger and they come to you 1153 00:41:58,610 --> 00:41:56,570 believe it or not very addicted high and 1154 00:42:00,980 --> 00:41:58,620 trafficked I have a big clientele of 1155 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:00,990 different levels of prostitution girls 1156 00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:02,550 whether they be high to end call girls 1157 00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:03,720 or actually streetwalker 1158 00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:06,600 does she get them good therapy 1159 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:09,120 absolutely absolutely does that work oh 1160 00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:10,710 there's therapists that work on staff 1161 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:12,300 there's meetings they have to be sober 1162 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:15,370 they have to go through do they do told 1163 00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:18,040 yeah they all do state what they do you 1164 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:19,540 don't like toasters well they some of 1165 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:22,930 them do I don't do it but my issue with 1166 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,570 it it's partially correct so I'll say 1167 00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:27,040 that they have good points and if it 1168 00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:28,900 gets you sober in the beginning then 1169 00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:30,460 good I just don't believe that our 1170 00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:32,500 energy remains I'm not the child I was 1171 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,660 that's not who I am I know we've got a 1172 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:36,880 big deep dive on 12-step and the problem 1173 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:40,270 is the success rate is very low and I 1174 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:41,830 think that it's sucking people into 1175 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:43,720 12-step programs oh that could be do 1176 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:45,550 yeah that could be following real 1177 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:47,650 therapy which is seeing a doctor an 1178 00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:50,320 addiction ologist yes perhaps is 1179 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:51,460 providing you with some medication 1180 00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:53,020 because you might need antidepressants 1181 00:42:58,170 --> 00:42:55,590 because your is also doing intense 1182 00:43:00,120 --> 00:42:58,180 individual one-on-one therapy regarding 1183 00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:00,130 your childhood trauma yeah and none of 1184 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:02,350 that happens in Tulsa no no no you just 1185 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:04,360 talked about and that brings me you know 1186 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:06,370 who I do podcast with who's husband's 1187 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:09,130 fantastic dr. drew speaking of yeah I 1188 00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:11,470 like him he and I agree on addiction so 1189 00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:15,220 well okay but he seems to so be okay 1190 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:17,590 with Tulsa programs he is if it stops 1191 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:21,490 you like if it's what if it works that's 1192 00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:23,530 what he's saying but dr. Drew does good 1193 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:27,100 work too because well he just does but I 1194 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:29,290 actually am a fan of his I'm a huge fan 1195 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:31,330 of doctors from way back to Loveline 1196 00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:33,640 days I don't you have them on here we 1197 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:35,800 need to talk about 12:00 stuff because 1198 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:37,330 do you want me to text them free that 1199 00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:37,870 would be awesome 1200 00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:40,120 I will please I shall bringing it back 1201 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:41,740 to my I'm wrapping it up Michael Jackson 1202 00:43:47,370 --> 00:43:44,410 back to Michael and the parents it does 1203 00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:47,380 seem how the hell I mean when I watch 1204 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:48,940 the documentary it made sense to me I 1205 00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:50,890 could see why they got sucked in to the 1206 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:53,470 fame and the celebrity cetera but still 1207 00:44:00,810 --> 00:43:56,770 how was Michael not putting out some 1208 00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:00,820 type of child molester energy that guy 1209 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:02,440 didn't marry Lisa and Lisa Marie Presley 1210 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:04,510 is full of [\h__\h] when she I'd listen to 1211 00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:05,110 her again 1212 00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:06,460 she's like I only married Michael 1213 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:09,100 because I was a track shut up please I'm 1214 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:11,410 sorry wait kiss yeah no and by the way 1215 00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:13,660 your husband you've accused him of child 1216 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,430 porn and pedophile and back actually 1217 00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:17,440 your dad Elvis was kind of 25 in your 1218 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:19,120 mom was 14 when their parents let her go 1219 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:21,730 with him I'm not saying just saying but 1220 00:44:25,890 --> 00:44:24,130 you don't have common sense either like 1221 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:25,900 you were a bit off so you're saying the 1222 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:27,370 parents just missed it because they were 1223 00:44:30,289 --> 00:44:28,650 infatuated with 1224 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,299 there's one there's one thing that gets 1225 00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:32,400 everybody into trouble into two 1226 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,990 including little children although I 1227 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:35,520 give children a pass because they're not 1228 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:38,250 developed is greed the parents wanted 1229 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:40,170 something for their kids it's their own 1230 00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:41,970 damn greed you have to be willing this 1231 00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:43,740 goes back to what I learned in childhood 1232 00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:46,260 to hold attachment to nothing I don't 1233 00:44:49,819 --> 00:44:48,359 care if you have money I don't care what 1234 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:49,829 you say I don't care if I have a job 1235 00:44:53,809 --> 00:44:51,930 whatever I'm not doing what I don't want 1236 00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:53,819 to do and you have the right to do that 1237 00:44:57,289 --> 00:44:55,500 now little kids need to have parents who 1238 00:44:59,359 --> 00:44:57,299 back that up because they don't have the 1239 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,369 wherewithal to do that but you cannot 1240 00:45:03,319 --> 00:45:01,200 attach emotionally to anything you must 1241 00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:03,329 be prepared to lose anything that's how 1242 00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:05,220 you keep yourself safe because they will 1243 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:07,020 manipulate you here's a car you're not 1244 00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:08,730 gonna have your apartment husband's in 1245 00:45:13,089 --> 00:45:10,440 domestic violence I pay your rent 1246 00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:13,099 whatever yeah well now you're not gonna 1247 00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:15,750 that's always been my thinking support 1248 00:45:19,609 --> 00:45:17,369 and survive on your own so that you 1249 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,619 don't become greedy to rely on another 1250 00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:22,200 person choose who you're around love it